BOTH WILL HAVE STAINS AND SMUDGES ON THE OUTSIDE MOSTLY SECTIONS 3-29. THERE WILL BE NAME WRITTEN ON THEM. JUST INSIDE BOTH BINDERS THERE WILL BE MORE STAINS AND SOME MORE ALONG THE WAY. HOWEVER, MOST OF THE PAGES ARE CLEAN. THE SECTIONS 3-29 BINDER IS STARTING TO SEPARATE. ALL OF THIS IN SHOWN IN PHOTOS, THEY ARE VERY BIG AND HEAVY. CHECK OUT MY OTHER AUTOMOBILE AND TRUCK SERVICE MANUALS AS WELL AS MARINA SERVICE MANUALS.